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Millennium Force 44:
Since I would like to discuss the logistics of Outlaw Run, which I am sure a lot of you would too, I figured I would make a topic instead of rambling on in the shoutbox.... So what are your thoughts?

I am still skeptical about calling this a wooden coaster. Don't get me wrong, this ride looks absolutely amazing, but I just can't get myself to call it a real wooden coaster. For all of you who think Intamin prefabs have questionable wooden coaster status, I do not have a problem calling them wooden coasters since the track is completely made of wood with a thin layer of steel for the wheels to run on.  I talked to Mr. Grubb at IAAPA this year and he told me that the steel section of track on Outlaw Run is hollow and they fill it with cement.

I have also noticed that TPR is claiming Outlaw Run is tied as the fastest wooden coaster at 68mph. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't El Toro reach 70-72 mph?

AV Matt:
As much as I like to bash it, El Toro IS absolutely a wooden coaster. Outlaw Run on the other hand. It's got so much steel in the track it's hard to think of it as being any different than Gemini at Cedar Point.

Edwardo:
Gemini has a steel structure bolted into wood supports. Outlaw run doesn't. The thickness of the steel plates changed. It's not running on steel tubes bolted to wood supports, there are still layers if wood under the steel plates. YMMV.

AV Matt:
But the wood is structurally isolated by steel to keep it from flexing like a true wooden coaster so you probably don't get any benefit of having the wood there other than to support the steel. The flexing of the wood track is what gives a wooden coaster its "feel".

I hope I'm totally wrong. If it feels like a wooden coaster then I'll definitely retract my statement, but looking at how it's built it seems the wood is just there for show and has no effect on the physical experience.

Edwardo:
I know that on the extensive re-tracking on Georgia Cyclone, it definitely felt more like a smooth GCI and not Texas Giant.  Granted, thats a coaster that runs PTCs and had the topper track added later.

I believe the whole ride is supposed to get Topper track, though, or so I thought.  But it still didn't feel like a steel coaster to me.

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